Comments on: This ain’t your daddy’s Flash http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51 Flash Platform stuff from Jason Fincanon Thu, 01 Sep 2011 10:52:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: FlashApe » Blog Archive » Flash RIA’s http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51/comment-page-1#comment-215 FlashApe » Blog Archive » Flash RIA’s Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:49:22 +0000 http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51#comment-215 [...] 5:49 pm This post at FlashCanon and this article at designtechnica about 2006’s best of web 2.0 (wow best of 2006 already…its friggin february!) had me all set to write up a “Where are all the RIAs?” post…point being the sexy AJAX apps seem to be getting all the press and visibilty, and maybe rightly so. Then I read this comment on the post at FlashCanon by Keith Peters that put it all in perspective: I don’t really worry too much about the anti-flash crowd. There is more than enough work out there to keep any decent Flash developer busy 80+ hours per week, and it only seems to be increasing. So they can howl about how horrible Flash is while I’m going to the bank to deposit my checks. [...] [...] 5:49 pm This post at FlashCanon and this article at designtechnica about 2006’s best of web 2.0 (wow best of 2006 already…its friggin february!) had me all set to write up a “Where are all the RIAs?” post…point being the sexy AJAX apps seem to be getting all the press and visibilty, and maybe rightly so. Then I read this comment on the post at FlashCanon by Keith Peters that put it all in perspective: I don’t really worry too much about the anti-flash crowd. There is more than enough work out there to keep any decent Flash developer busy 80+ hours per week, and it only seems to be increasing. So they can howl about how horrible Flash is while I’m going to the bank to deposit my checks. [...]

]]> By: Jason http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51/comment-page-1#comment-214 Jason Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:58:20 +0000 http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51#comment-214 Nice points guys. I've been thinking more about this and I don't think it's about making Flash haters like Flash, I think it's more about changing the way people think about Flash and about helping people understand that what they want can more than likely be built in Flash. I agree with you, Mike, that building more and more apps is one approach. And Keith, amen on the work being plentiful! As for the AJAX stuff: the press it has received does far outweigh that of Flash/Flex. And maybe it will, in fact, take someone building a huge Flash/Flex app that a big company like Google will pick up on. But how to get them to pick up on it? I see people post about some pretty sweet apps they've built but how do we, as Flash Developers, push those apps to the top outside the Flash communities? Keith - No problem on the plug. Thanks for your great work on the book! Nice points guys. I’ve been thinking more about this and I don’t think it’s about making Flash haters like Flash, I think it’s more about changing the way people think about Flash and about helping people understand that what they want can more than likely be built in Flash. I agree with you, Mike, that building more and more apps is one approach. And Keith, amen on the work being plentiful! As for the AJAX stuff: the press it has received does far outweigh that of Flash/Flex. And maybe it will, in fact, take someone building a huge Flash/Flex app that a big company like Google will pick up on. But how to get them to pick up on it? I see people post about some pretty sweet apps they’ve built but how do we, as Flash Developers, push those apps to the top outside the Flash communities?

Keith – No problem on the plug. Thanks for your great work on the book!

]]> By: Keith Peters http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51/comment-page-1#comment-213 Keith Peters Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:02:25 +0000 http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51#comment-213 1. Thanks for the plug! 2. I don't really worry too much about the anti-flash crowd. There is more than enough work out there to keep any decent Flash developer busy 80+ hours per week, and it only seems to be increasing. So they can howl about how horrible Flash is while I'm going to the bank to deposit my checks. :) 1. Thanks for the plug!
2. I don’t really worry too much about the anti-flash crowd. There is more than enough work out there to keep any decent Flash developer busy 80+ hours per week, and it only seems to be increasing. So they can howl about how horrible Flash is while I’m going to the bank to deposit my checks. :)

]]> By: Mike Britton http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51/comment-page-1#comment-212 Mike Britton Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:49:26 +0000 http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51#comment-212 I agree completely - and I feel the best thing to do is, as they say, "eat your own dog food". Use Flash to make applications, and make them visible. Turn the Flash haters around through action as well as words by creating apps that people can't help using, they are so cool. I agree completely – and I feel the best thing to do is, as they say, “eat your own dog food”. Use Flash to make applications, and make them visible. Turn the Flash haters around through action as well as words by creating apps that people can’t help using, they are so cool.

]]> By: aardvark http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51/comment-page-1#comment-211 aardvark Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:46:03 +0000 http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/51#comment-211 After 5 years of developing web applications with Flash I'm considering the benefits of AJAX, which I still consider as javascript, xml, html, css. The reason is I see where macromedia strategists, err Adobe Flash Plaaaatform strategist are taking us and I don't like it. I feel pressured to continue upgrading my Flash development tools, now I see that in order to produce competitive flash applications I'll need to also put Flex in my arsenal of tools. So, every designer and engineer on my staff will now have to buy Flash AND Flex in order to create a good workflow. That just doesn't fit a small businesses budget. So we schedule about 20% of our time switching to Linux now and selecting or developing production tools and a workflow that is more affordable, flexible, and replaceable with non-proprietary heavily patented technologies. That's a lot of rant for a simple statement. Despite how much I do like what we've done with Flash, we're discovering cheaper better ways to do the same things without it. After 5 years of developing web applications with Flash I’m considering the benefits of AJAX, which I still consider as javascript, xml, html, css. The reason is I see where macromedia strategists, err Adobe Flash Plaaaatform strategist are taking us and I don’t like it. I feel pressured to continue upgrading my Flash development tools, now I see that in order to produce competitive flash applications I’ll need to also put Flex in my arsenal of tools. So, every designer and engineer on my staff will now have to buy Flash AND Flex in order to create a good workflow. That just doesn’t fit a small businesses budget. So we schedule about 20% of our time switching to Linux now and selecting or developing production tools and a workflow that is more affordable, flexible, and replaceable with non-proprietary heavily patented technologies. That’s a lot of rant for a simple statement. Despite how much I do like what we’ve done with Flash, we’re discovering cheaper better ways to do the same things without it.

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