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		<title>Flash Dallas &#8211; An Official Adobe Flash User Group</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 04:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About a month ago a new official Adobe Flash User Group, Flash Dallas, was started with my good friend Chris Long at the helm and me co-managing. After doing a little looking around we&#8217;ve found a place for our first meeting which will be held on Saturday, June 26th at 11:00am (details below). ***Special thanks [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://groups.adobe.com/group/918" target="flashdallas"><img src="http://flash.fincanon.com/wp-images/FlashDallas.jpg" alt="Flash Dallas" title="Flash Dallas" class="alignleft"/></a>About a month ago a new official Adobe Flash User Group, <a href="http://groups.adobe.com/group/918" target="flashdallas">Flash Dallas</a>, was started with my good friend <a href="http://www.flashinyourface.com" target="flashdallas">Chris Long</a> at the helm and me co-managing. After doing a little looking around we&#8217;ve found a place for our first meeting which will be held on Saturday, June 26th at 11:00am (details below).</p>
<p><small>***Special thanks to <a href="http://www.digitaldiva-inc.com/" target="flashdallas">Angela Ferrell</a> for helping so much with the location***</small></p>
<p>The plan for our first meeting is to set goals for the group, discuss future meeting times and places, talk about topics/speakers that members would like to hear about throughout the year and spend a little time looking at Flash CS5.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t already, please join our group and feel free to follow us on twitter as well.</p>
<p><strong>LINKS/DETAILS:</strong></p>
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<li><a href="http://groups.adobe.com/group/918" target="flashdallas">Group home page</a></li>
<li><a href="http://groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.display&#038;postid=22252" target="flashdallas">First meeting details</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/flashdallasug" target="flashdallas">Flash Dallas on Twitter</a></li>
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<p>SEE YOU THERE!</p>
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		<title>Sharing is great, but it&#8217;s just not enough</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unlike my last post, it seems that I should start this one with a few disclaimers, so here they are real quick: I&#8217;m only trying to share my views I&#8217;m not trying to battle with Ted Patrick I do not think that ALL evangelists are elitists (I have an enormous amount of respect for most [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike my <a href="http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/170" target="fc">last post</a>, it seems that I should start this one with a few disclaimers, so here they are real quick:</p>
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<li>I&#8217;m only trying to share my views</li>
<li>I&#8217;m not trying to battle with Ted Patrick</li>
<li>I do not think that ALL evangelists are elitists (I have an enormous amount of respect for most evangelists)</li>
<li>I do not think that ALL industry leaders are elitists (I have an enormous amount of respect for most industry leaders)</li>
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<p>Now that that&#8217;s out of the way, let&#8217;s get to the post&#8230;<br />
<span id="more-171"></span><br />
If you keep up with <a href="http://onflash.org" target="fc">Ted Patrick&#8217;s blog</a>, you&#8217;ll notice that it&#8217;s obvious (based on the title of my post) that I&#8217;m writing in response to a post Ted <a href="http://onflash.org/ted/2009/08/flash-platform-community-of-sharing.php" target="fc">wrote on Saturday</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/__ted__/status/3363762240" target="fc">tweeted about on Monday</a>. Why am I responding to Ted&#8217;s post? Well, for three reasons:</p>
<p><strong>Reason #1: It may have been related to my post</strong><br />
Within his post, Ted states that:</p>
<blockquote><p>It isn&#8217;t some elitist club, but rather those that share gain influence and respect with the community.</p></blockquote>
<p>I was most likely reading too much into it, but I couldn&#8217;t help but think that was in reference to my post on <a href="http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/170" target="fc">Flash Platform community elitism</a>. By the way, I think I may have been misunderstood because my point was never that there was an elitist club. Instead I was saying that there are <em>SOME</em> in the upper echelons who act like elitists.</p>
<p><strong>Reason #2: I believe there are more pieces to the community puzzle than just sharing code</strong><br />
So after reading Ted&#8217;s post, I had a few thoughts. I thought that, yes, sharing IS good and people should do it. Then I thought of how sharing isn&#8217;t the only key to working your way to the top. Then I shared my thoughts with Ted via a comment to his post.</p>
<p><strong>Reason #3: I tried to share thoughts in a comment on Ted&#8217;s post, but it was never approved</strong><br />
This is the one where I very honestly got confused (confused, not mad) by Ted&#8217;s actions in relation to his words. I completely understand it&#8217;s his blog and he can approve whatever comments he sees fit&#8230; I respect that. However, there&#8217;s a bit of irony there when you have a man saying that we all have a voice and that all of our voices can and will be heard while turning around and only approving comments that completely agree with him (IN THIS CASE).</p>
<p>So after I wrote my thoughts and submitted them to Ted&#8217;s blog, I waited&#8230; and waited&#8230; and waited. Finally, when I started seeing other comments showing up, I realized that mine wasn&#8217;t going to. While I was talking to a couple of coworkers about this strange turn of events, one of them decided to run a little test. He was going to post a &#8220;100% agreeing, ass-kissing&#8221; comment to see how long it took to get approved&#8230; it didn&#8217;t take long at all:</p>
<p><img src="http://flash.fincanon.com/wp-images/tedPatrickPost.jpg" alt="tpComment" /></p>
<p>In case you can&#8217;t read it it says:</p>
<blockquote><p>I agree 100%. I really love this flow of conversation. It is great to get such insightful help on something like this. Self-marketing can be hit or miss. It is nice to see someone in the &#8220;elitist club&#8221; giving us n00bs tips on getting a little community hug. Keep up the good work!</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t copy my comment to Ted&#8217;s post because I honestly didn&#8217;t think there would be any issue with it. So I&#8217;ll do my best to remember some of it:</p>
<blockquote><p>I agree that sharing is good and that everyone should do it. However, I think there are other things to figure in. Things like passion, extra time after hours learning and coding, time away from your family. The face time at conferences, the &#8220;who you know&#8221; factor, etc.<br />
What if you don&#8217;t have the extra time outside of the office? What if you can&#8217;t get in the circle of friends at the top? What if you can&#8217;t afford to go to conferences and get face time? I think when you figure all of those and more in to the equation, the likelihood of a developer climbing the community ranks is a little diminished. Sharing code alone will not make you the next Keith Peters, Grant Skinner, Joshua Davis. It takes much more than that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, I didn&#8217;t copy it so that&#8217;s not exact but you get the point.</p>
<p>So help me out here if you can. I&#8217;m confused. Why did my comment get ignored? Was it because I didn&#8217;t completely agree? Was it because I was presenting some different pieces to figure in? Some different points of view? Was it because Ted was mad at me because of a misunderstanding about my <a href="http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/170" target="fc">previous post</a>? Maybe he just didn&#8217;t want to deal with the debate?</p>
<p><strong>PLEASE read this part</strong><br />
I am not trying to battle with Ted and I&#8217;m not trying to battle with any other evangelists or industry leaders. I have the utmost respect for those that have worked their way to the top and become industry leaders. I also have a huge amount of respect for everything that evangelists do for the community. However, I also completely stand by my <a href="http://flash.fincanon.com/archives/170" target="fc">previous post</a> and its intended message. Those at the top of the community are NOT in some big &#8220;elitist club&#8221;, but there ARE a few up there with elitist attitudes. There are elitists in every walk of life and this industry is no exception.</p>
<p><strong>And this part</strong><br />
Call it paranoia if you like, but it&#8217;s a shame that I feel like several people in the community may turn completely against me for sharing my views on this whole topic. That I may very quickly become the bad guy because I &#8220;called out&#8221; an evangelist and disagreed with him. And that I may be looked down on for having the gall to say that there are people out there with holier-than-thou attitudes. How dare me!</p>
<p><strong>Flame on! (again)</strong><br />
And now, without further ado, let the flames begin!</p>
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